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mazzie ([personal profile] mazzie) wrote2005-11-17 04:22 pm

Puns

Poet James Merrill had a lot to say about puns on puns, including:

A pity about that lowest form of humor. It is suffered, by and large, with groans of aversion, as though one had done an unseemly thing in adult society, like slipping a hand up the hostess's dress. Indeed, the punster has touched, and knows it if only for being so promptly shamed, upon a secret, fecund place in language herself. The pun’s objet trouvé aspect cheapens it further – why? A Freudian slip is taken seriously: it betrays its maker’s hidden wish. The pun (or the rhyme, for that matter) "merely" betrays the hidden wish of words.


Which elicited a response from Mulu Konuk Blasing, including the following sentence:

Puns escape the idealizing economy of referential and representational substitution, since their multiple meanings are coeval, residing in the letters of the word.

A more full story can be found here.


Hmm.


By the way, I was researching Merrill because I just ordered a book of poetry by him called "Divine Comedies." Any of you brilliant kids read his stuff?

[identity profile] passaddhi.livejournal.com 2005-11-17 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
As it turns out, I *did* get into the retreat next week. So, moving my trip up a bit, are you free maybe for dinner on Tuesday? I think?

[identity profile] mazzie.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
hah!
tuesday happens to be one of the only dinners i have planned in advance in months! you could come along, if you care to venture into the district ...

[identity profile] passaddhi.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, don't want to interrupt your other plans. How about this -- send me directions to a place near you (hotel wise, dining wise), and I'll call you when I get in. Might be later Monday, if the drive goes well.

[identity profile] scrog.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
I fondly remember reading his regular semi-quasi-non-fiction pieces in Shaved Lesbian Midgets.

[identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
I read a science-fiction story once in which it was postulated that (1) humanity is a test study population for an alien race, and (2) most forms of humor in human culture are things we were given by the aliens and conditioned to find funny. Puns are the ONLY kind of humor we have ever developed on our own, and that's why we groan rather than laughing at them -- the better the pun, the louder the groan. It's because we don't have the conditioned "laugh" reflex to this type of humor.

Damned if I can remember what the title of the story was, or who wrote it, but (as you can see) the concept was interesting enough to have stayed with me all these years.